Monday, June 28, 2010
I keep finding more and more, is it endless?
Trump University Complaint by Sjones
You were reading a complaint about Trump University.
Filing a new complaint about
Trump University scammed me. Do not believe these people!
They will tell you to use whatever resource you have to pay them their 15-35G's for their classes which are full of teachers bragging about what they have but never telling you how to get it other than some top level stuff that never gives you the meat you need to succeed. They don't pay you any attention (even in the $1,495 class) if you don't have the money. They will actually shut you up in class if you challenge them and tune you out and stop calling on you so as to not let the other class members see a devil's advocate and question anything. They will tell you to use your credit cards, your equity line, anything you have that money can be drawn from. So many Americans are already losing their homes...how sad would it be to not have enough money to make your mortgage payments because they scammed you or take out an equity line that causes your mortgage to grow and then have no way to repay it. But this is exactly what they'll do even if they sense you are unsure...that's when I noticed they seemed to pressure you more...when they think they are losing you...they will go in for the kill.
So many people in the classes complained to each other so much so that it became a joke...but stupidly they, and I, came back for more...well because we paid for it and had hope until the last minute. Wrong! If Donald trump apparently has kids who went to the best universities and has the nerve to call this a university I would be mortified if I were him. You cannot call this a university. It is full of bloodsuckers who lie to your face and then somehow put their head to rest at night on their pillow without a second thought to how they may ruin your life. I can only compare it to a used car salesman...you know how they go back to apparently talk to their sales manager but in reality they are just passing the time...these are the low handed tactics they'll use and then act like they are on your side and all buddy buddy about the classes.
They'll point to their measly several testimonials to prove their success but how come out of thousands of students are there only several singing their praises? Payoffs I can only assume and from what I've seen. You stroke their back, they'll stroke yours. This is all politics but what you'd hear at the water cooler is a *** of a lot worse than you could ever imagine...what really goes on behind the scenes at Trump University is not so pretty.
Check out online reports of former employees who tell the truth of what goes on in the outside...how they are pressured to enroll more and more people and put on a show on the phone. These people are probably scripted as they are just salespeople not caring individuals. It is the game of faking it 'til you make it but it's all bull. I can't stand posers or users so I'm going to tell you the truth as they stole money out of my pocket and gave me nothing I could use in return, no matter how hard I tried or how much I asked.
I went through their classes and it's all broad with nothing deep for you to actually use in the real world. They ask you to keep spending your hard earned dough to get more and more top level stuff. It just never ends.
I sincerely hope this post can save at least one person from the same mistake that is going to take me twice the amount of time to repair that I spent in their classes.
Buyer beware!!! Don't do it. They will lie to your face!
(http://trump-university.pissedconsumer.com/trump-university-reviews-20091213164346.html)
Sunday, June 27, 2010
sorry, but I cannot hold myself
Students say they spent thousands of dollars and got nothing in return
By Jon Hood
ConsumerAffairs.com
May 5, 2010
A group of consumers has filed suit against Trump University, the financial institution that holds itself out as a vehicle to instant wealth and happiness, alleging that the only thing they got from the school was a massive amount of debt.
According to the suit, Trump University promises big things, assuring consumers that "it's the 'next best thing' to being Donald Trump's next 'Apprentice." Indeed, the company's website promises that students can, depending on their goals, "become the next real estate mogul," "become your own success story," or "learn wealth strategies."
But the plaintiffs say it didn't take long before they realized that "[t]he primary lesson Trump University teaches its students is how to spend more money buying more Trump seminars."
According to the complaint, when the plaintiffs first arrived at Trump University, the faculty sought to reassure them about the high cost of the seminars they were being offered. Specifically, the plaintiffs say they were told they would get all their money back at their first real estate closing, and that they stood to make "tens of thousands of dollars" every month after that. And, in addition to the seminars, the plaintiffs say they were promised, among other things "a one-year apprenticeship, a one-on-one mentorship ... [and] a 'power team' consisting of real estate [professionals]."
Lead plaintiff spent $60,000
As it turned out, Trump University might have oversold itself a bit. According to the suit, the one-year apprenticeship turned out to be a three-day seminar; the one-on-one mentorship, paradoxically, "consisted of no practical insights and no mentorship"; and the members of the "power team" were only interested in lining their own pockets.
The suit also says students were asked to raise their credit card limits and prepare "detailed financial statements," ostensibly so that they would have enough money to cover their first real estate investment opportunity. In reality, though, the plaintiffs claim Trump University was just making sure that the students would have enough money to cover the Trump Gold Program, which clocks in at an eye-popping $34,995.
According to the suit, lead plaintiff Tarla Makaeff was talked into signing up for the program after Trump University speaker Tiffany Brinkman guaranteed that her first real estate deal "would earn her in the ballpark of $35,000." Makaeff spent $60,000 on Trump courses over a one-year period, and ended up having to turn down the only two real estate deals that came her way, as "both were flawed and appeared unprofitable."
Allegations resemble other suits
Unfortunately, Trump University isn't unique. Last September, a suit against Millionaire University claimed that students spent over $20,000 on "real estate investment opportunities," only to end up with property that no one was willing to buy. The homes were in "high crime, highly vandalized areas," and, in case that wasn't enough, Millionaire University saturated neighborhoods with "five or more of the same model home...in close proximity to one another," making resale almost impossible.
Trump University was founded by Donald Trump, the real estate tycoon and host of The Apprentice, the NBC reality show in which contestants compete to be Trump's second-hand man. The school's home page features a characteristically intense-looking Trump next to the headline, "Are YOU My Next Apprentice? Prove it to me!" A button below the challenge instructs visitors to "Join Now. It's Free."
The plaintiffs are demanding a full refund for the money they spent on Trump University courses, an injunction prohibiting Trump from falsely advertising the school, and all suit-related costs, including attorneys' fees. The suit alleges breach of contract, breach of the covenant of good faith and fair dealing, negligent misrepresentation, fraud, and violation of several California consumer protection statutes.
(http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/05/trump_univ_suit.html)
Wednesday, June 23, 2010
missing modesty
(http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/08/11/New_Complaints.htm#Celebrity)
some1 should teach the Donald a lesson!
"Trump University Review & Customer Comments...
Trump University is an online learning center headed by the business and media mogul Donald Trump. Over the years Trump has made a name for himself in high-end real estate, developing properties such as luxury condos, sky-rises, and casinos.
With Trump University he focuses on providing education through four main categories. Trump University offers classes in Real Estate, Entrepreneurship, Management, and Wealth Creation. Each of these topics is taught through a variety of medians such as online courses, home study kits, and through live seminars/retreats.
Donald Trump has hand picked his staff at Trump University and not surprisingly his team members have a long list of credentials. His chief learning officer is Roger Schank, founder of the Institute for the Learning Sciences at Northwestern University and an expert at curriculum design.
Trump University is not an accredited program, meaning you won't actually get a real degree or college credits upon completion. However, the courses focus on teaching specific topics in a short period of time based of Trump's real life experiences and through expert tutelage.
All the courses and products at Trump University are backed by Trump's satisfaction guarantee. If for what ever reason you are not pleased with your education you have 30 days to get a full money back refund, provided you return all materials"
(C:\Users\itai\AppData\Local\Temp\bz_temp_9\31052010\Trump University Reviews - Is Trump University Legit.mht)
and this:
"Report: #581297Report: TRUMP UNIVERSITY
Reported By: Pete (North Andover Massachusetts)
United States of America TRUMP UNIVERSITY / JAMES HARRIS CON ARTIST AND FRAUD New York, New York
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TRUMP UNIVERSITY / JAMES HARRIS
Wall Street
New York New York
United States of America
Phone:
Web Address: www.trumpuniversity.com
Category: Seminar Programs
Submitted: Monday, March 15, 2010
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010
WARNING! - STAY AWAY FROM TRUMP UNIVERSITY - Do yourself a big financial favor and DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY WITH THEM."
(C:\Users\itai\AppData\Local\Temp\bz_temp_9\31052010\Trump University Reviews - Is Trump University Legit.mht)
at the same time?
is it possible that his hairness pays people to market his fraud?
how come that a guy who went bankrtp 3 (!) times, and have lost billions (1.2 billion just in the last round) is still allowed to have his own private money, because HE has never went bankrupt, it is just HIS COMPANY?
why do we allow this Gadfafi lover to keep doing what he is doing to all of us???
is there a line he shouldn't cross? is there a border that we should draw?
and what if we find out that he had a meeting with Ahmadinejad? would that be ok as well?
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
Sunday, June 13, 2010
more victims
http://cbs13.com/business/Baja.Donald.Trump.2.959101.html
Investors Lose Millions On Trump-Backed Project (CBS)
Trump Entertainment Files For Bankruptcy (2/17/2009)
Donald Trump Fires Himself From Casino Board (2/14/2009)
A group of potential homeowners, mostly from southern California, are finding out that they have lost millions of dollars in a project that had the Trump name attached to it.
http://cbs13.com/national/investors.trump.project.2.954753.html
Trump Entertainment Files For Bankruptcy ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP)
Donald Trump Fires Himself From Casino Board (2/14/2009)
The three Atlantic City casinos once run by Donald Trump filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Tuesday — for the third time.
http://cbs13.com/national/trump.entertainment.bankruptcy.2.936723.html
Tell me who your friends are
Libyan Leader May Be Entertaining In Bedford, N.Y., CBS Station WCBS-TV Reports
CBS News Interactive: Pan Am Flight 103BEDFORD, N.Y. (CBS) ―
The State Department said Tuesday a tent has been built on Bedford estate owned by Donald Trump. The massive tent is equipped with four satellite dishes and Persian decor.
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Bedford neighbor Cheryl McDermott said she knew two victims on Pan Am Flight 103, bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland in December of 1988. McDermott said she was outraged when the Libyan bomber was released and received a hero's welcome by Gadhafi.
"To me, he's a terrorist. He's not wanted. We don't want him here. I think he needs to go back," McDermott said.
Other neighbors expressed outrage Tuesday.
"Why should he be able to roam free, wherever he wants to go? That's not fair," resident Dennis Adorno said.
In White Plains, County Executive Andrew Spano issued a statement saying Gadhafi wasn't welcome, but that the county can't stop him.
There was no answer at the intercom to the entrance of the 113 Silver Springs Estate, owned by Donald Trump. In a statement, Trump spokesperson Rhonna Graff told WCBS-TV: "We have business partners and associates all over the world..."
http://cbs13.com/national/qadhafi.bedford.trump.2.1201738.html
Saturday, June 12, 2010
Trump University take 6
Thank you all for taking the time to write a review and save us all alot of money. Just because it has Trumps name all over it doesn't mean it's good. It's all about finding the right information. (They're selling information) Do your own research! All of the information you need is out there on the internet. Fix yourself a cup of coffee, ask yourself the question that you need an answer to and do a search...
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16124
Donald, Ottawa
Looks like Donald Trump is in need of some cash running this scam. I love how this "magical" software they try to sell you will do everything for you to make you millions! hahahah. the best part of the long drawn preach about the software is that they NEVER NEVER DEMOED the software for us!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA... who sells $3000 software without even showing us what it is???
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16121
Thursday, June 10, 2010
amazing what you can find

"Donald Trump's Casinos Are Having More Than Just A Bad Hair Day
February 16, 2009
Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka resigned from their positions on the board of Trump Entertainment Resorts due to a dispute with the bondholders of the the company."
Bankruptcy for the third time...
and more
" Trump Dubai Has Been Put on Hold
January 14, 2009 "
but the best of all:
"Wind Strikes The Donald Again But Don't Worry, His Hair Is Ok
December 15, 2008
Donald Trump's worst enemy--the wind--has struck again, but this time it had nothing to do with his hair. A helicopter was supposed to install the spire (antenna) on the top of the 92-story Trump International Hotel and Tower over the weekend, but because of 50 miles per hour wind gusts on Saturday and 40 miles per hour gusts on Sunday, the topping off had to be called off. "
all from the recomended HotelChatter.com
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hotelchatter.com/files/8580/DonaldTrumpBadHairDay.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hotelchatter.com/tag/Donald%2520Trump/2&usg=__pZWqcFqXNgYMkN5yN-TtALM02Ps=&h=260&w=399&sz=26&hl=en&start=399&sig2=BEkEElulJeVHlh0zloe4KQ&itbs=1&tbnid=tceYSrx1PteuLM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddonald%2Btrump%26start%3D380%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=ozwQTIaaAsyZOLfz_fsK
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
bad hair day




and also see at http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.ivman.com/wp-content/DonaldTrumpBadHairDay.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blog.ivman.com/bad-hair-days/&usg=__zY_gn1-jtCkmCJWyLZojUIEf2qU=&h=497&w=350&sz=34&hl=en&start=454&sig2=aQwSDAvteTuDtgwru6vyqg&itbs=1&tbnid=w2Dynzv5KmQhYM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddonald%2Btrump%26start%3D440%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=yzwQTNXeL82ROOy92fsK
Playboy man
(http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://staging.radaronline.com/exclusives//donald_trump_zydroc_fresh.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/06/donald-trump-phone-call-item.php&usg=__ZiH3oo3PhStm8rSeU9dXo8qVZR0=&h=281&w=225&sz=41&hl=en&start=139&sig2=RZTx3ntSW5gsTSTwrJT4CQ&itbs=1&tbnid=HuQDCPuPDCPrQM:&tbnh=114&tbnw=91&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddonald%2Btrump%26start%3D120%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=nDYQTMnED8anOPvl7PsK)
His hairness

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://production-blogs.glam.com/glamblush/files/2008/06/article-1025610-018ece8b00000578-313_233x353_popup.jpg&imgrefurl=http://production-blogs.glam.com/glamlive/%3Fpage%3D36&usg=__xKh8JL0JgHHo7WQEJA30V2GPx20=&h=650&w=472&sz=76&hl=en&start=146&sig2=CA5kyXegdmmJBGoepFhlbQ&itbs=1&tbnid=XJI6_Cne-V237M:&tbnh=137&tbnw=99&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddonald%2Btrump%26start%3D140%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=qzYQTMjiJNCYOM2asPwK
The Trump university (take 5)
I went to the free seminar where they sold the three day seminar for $1995. They said Donald Trump is not out to take your money. They said he has so much money that the $1995 doesn't mean anything to him.
At the three day seminar they were selling more courses and 3 days of mentoring for $38000.
They said the $1995 seminar was not enough and that you would probably lose a lot of money if you didn't buy the $38000 dollar program.
Donald Trump does not seem to be trying to do anybody any favor. TrumpU is just another business to him and he probably only cares about the cash flow.
The agreement for the $38000 program has a statement where you sign the agreement that from what I read there is no guarantee that you will make any money and that TrumpU has no real obligation to you.
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16141
Alex, Kalamazoo, MI
I signed up for the program (what a stupid a** I was) because I thought the Donald really meant “giving back to the community” by setting up the seminar; what a liar he is.
Then when I read more about them on the internet (again, after paying, which further proves the stupid above) I tried to cancel next day.
Everything seemed fine; the customer service lady who answered the phone was quick and helpful setting up the return free UPS mailing label for me. She even gave me a Return Authorization # and said that UPS would show up maximum in 72 hours to pick up the package.
This was 2 weeks ago. Since then no UPS guy showed up to pick-up the materials. Until the Donald does not receive the materials, they do not refund your money –according to their disclaimer.
So I tried and tried and tried calling them to see what is going on, but now the only response I get is that "our offices are closed" and call back later. Does not matter what day or hour you call, this is the only response you get.
So The Donald is just an other internet scammer, and his place in a jail would be well deserved. If there is any justice on earth (which we all know that there is ).
He probably does not have enough money if he needs mine, so I assume he is going to bed hungry. If he told me that, I could have contributed toward a loaf of bread so he can eat something. But he prefers stealing other people's money. That is actually one of his mottos: "OPM” (other people's money). What he does not mention is that the motto is actually: S-OPM (steal other people's money) if you want to become a billionaire.
Even if I can change the mind of one single person not to give these crooks money, this posting is worth my time.
I contacted my credit card company to reverse the payment, so I am still hopeful I can get my money back.
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16131
Tuesday, June 8, 2010
The Trump university (take 3)
Richard, Philadelphia
"I went to the free seminar because Trump's name was on it. I researched some of the people listed on the web site. Clearly they have great credentials and I would have paid to learn from them. But the guy who was leading the seminar came across as a carnival hustler. To his credit he presented two methods of buying real estate in this market. But as the seminar progressed he said a few things about banking that were incorrect. He glossed over a few facts and there was no time for questions. My sense is that he was trying to seperate the intelligent and strong minded from the weak minded and those less knowledgable about real estate. I'm sure that those of us who left were labeled 'losers' to those that stayed. The techniques that he talked about are good in any real estate market. You really don't need to pay someone for the information that he was selling. As I read the comments on this page I am not surprised that the weekend retreat included another sales pitch for a much larger amount of money. The seminar leader, let's call him Jim, stated that he was hand picked by Donald Trump and is Donald's #1 trainer in the country..."
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16152
Rachelle, Wisconsin, De Pere
I've been to three of the seminars and they act as though it must be taught in 3 days. A weekend is not needed at all; the material can be taught in a day, seriously people! I think they drag it on the entire weekend so you are forced to get a hotel room so theirs is free and they have time to pitch you the next salespitch, mentoring, which my husband did purchase. It was the worst mentoring I've ever had. I knew more than the mentor from previous courses. I mentioned the repetition and she simply stated it is a learning strategy...so if you want to pay thousands for repetition be my guest. I actually stopped in the middle of mentoring because she was wasting our time. I'm still trying to get our money back. Stay far away from that program! There are affordable legit real estate education courses out there, do your research and join a local Real estate investor club!
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16151
Dorla Verrier, Ca
Trump University is a major disappointment. They charged me $35,000 for the program, which I would never have paid if I had known that the info given to me was not true. I based my decision on that info! They would not return even a portion of my money after several long and tearful conversations, even after agreeing the info was outdated and they would have to do something about it. I would strongly suggest never using them. There are other gurus out there that are honest and don't cost as much !!! I can't believe Donald Trump would allow such mis-behaving to be associated with his name. Run fast and keep running where they are involved!
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16148
geral, burbank CA
i took the 3 day classes and paid $2,000, FOR NOTHING. its all LIES!!!!!!!! FALSE ADVERTISEMENT, MISLEADING , THEY DO NOT DELIVER WHAT THEY PROMISED IN THE FREE SEMINAR. PLEASE DON'T GO TO THESE CLASSES. ITS A COMPLETE RIPOFF!!!!! I WANT MY MONEY BACK.
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16147
The Trump university (yep, 2nd time!)
I was amazed to find out that I am not the only sucker under the sky:
Donald Trump University - scam alert!
Post subject: BEWARE of TRUMP UNIVERSITY since it is ALL a SCAM and RIPOFF!!!!
Trump University and Trump Institute have their employees put fake positive reviews online to counter the real negative reviews posted by everyone that's getting ripped off by their scams. BEWARE of any positive reviews you see about Trump University or Trump Institute since they are bogus!!!
Scam Alert - Customer Reviews for the Donald Trump "Trump University"
(http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16154&sid=7bcd3760d800897e744b14c7a7b1f922)
Now this is interesting, should I expect his hairness to open a counter blog and post counter posts?
They also try to upsell to another program that cost $38000.
I went to the three day seminar and I didn't learn anything that I hadn't seen before. You could go to Barnes and noble and buy books on foreclosure investing and lease options and asset protection and spend no more than about a hundred fifty dollars and have the same information.
The person doing the seminar said you could be a millionaire simply by buying 10 houses for 100K each rent them for ten years, they would double in value giving you a million in equity.
Where I live it takes 20 or thirty years for a house to double in value.
They also try to upsell to another program that cost $38000. The contract has a statement that implies that there is no guarantee that you will make money after spending $38000 or that Trump U is in anyway obligated to make sure you make anything. I asked about this and they said yes, Trump makes no guarantee and you will not be refunded anything if you don't make anything. For $4000 there is a local real estate club that will find a house with 25000 equity fix it up and rent it out for you.
Trump should guarantee that they will find at least 2 houses over a two year period get them fixed up and rented out and sell them making enough profit to at least break even.
You go to these seminars and they talk as if you can flip a house in a week or two and put $25000 profit in your bank account. If its as easy as they say giving you some kind of guarantee shouldn't be a problem.
Scam Alert - Customer Reviews for the Donald Trump "Trump University"
http://www.nemmar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=16153
Sunday, June 6, 2010
Barbara Walters
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20007957,00.html
Melania Trump Nude?
“The “Trump wedding photos” you didn’t see. Sources say that, days before The Donald’s wedding, several friends of the couple received mysterious envelopes containing nude photos of bride-to-be Melania Knauss…” Read On. Here are the alleged nudes
http://www.boobieblog.com/?p=47
the best blog
More than that, there are those who are so much more talented!
For example, the hilarious blog at http://www.newsgroper.com/donald-trump?page=1
"Donald Trump is a real-estate mogul who has developed his own name-brand fragrance, vodka, and board game (players roll dice to see how many women they can marry). Trump has a few skeletons in his closet, namely his comb-over and true net-worth."
or
"Trump therapy: Stop being so poor and stupid
By Donald Trump
Bio & Blog
The Apprentice is so 2005. I’m ready to make daytime TV spicy. Envision Dr. Phil and Judge Judy on steroids — Trump Style.
If you have money-related issues with your landlord or your wife wants half, forget a counselor, come and see me. My advice isn’t free, but it is priceless. For $1,995 per panelist, I’ll show you how to get all the girls while making millions — no billions. It will be the best $1,995 you ever spent.
As an added bonus, my studio audience will get free Trump steaks and Trump water. Did you know I have the best cows in the world? My water is the best tasting water on the planet. I started digging my well years ago long before I was thirsty.
My first guest will be my good friend Rosie of course. We’ll set the record straight about why she’s such a moron. It will be the best daytime TV episode ever."
Joey deVilla
http://blog.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/9/7/1206409.html
and he is so much more talented! I mean Joey just wrote about the Trump blog, but the comments, oh the comments...
for example:
"Donald Trump has let us know that there are no consequences to illegal behavior. He has further implied that he is above the law, in fact "IS" the law in all things. To worry about his feelings on Rosie is really small when compared to what he could influence in state and federal legislation. "
you should visit and read yourself...